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Paul M. Banas said in June 11th, 2008 at 8:54 pm

Brennan, I think you’ve nailed your three points. Pretending like the world is still the 1970’s, or even the 1990’s for that matter, is a quick path to marketing irrelevance.

On point number one, I wouldn’t count TV out just yet. They are desperately trying to change their business model, and since there are a lot of smart people working in that medium, they may just succeed. As a related point, I’m intrigued by what may happen with Hulu.com. But the days when everyone watched the same shows and the same commercials on the same three networks is DOA.

All in all, an excellent post on marketing to a very different generational landscape.

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Dave Knox said in June 11th, 2008 at 9:42 pm

Brennan, I’m really interested by the 2nd point that you make. I think when people say that Gen Y doesnt care about your ad, they really are taking the easy way out. Consumers never cared about your ad in the past…they just had to put up with it. The world is different today without a doubt and if anything, I think Gen Y actually cares more about ads because they are vocalizing and asking for something better. This is a generation (myself included) that wears brands as badges and they want brands to say something about who they are and what they believe. So today they are holding lazy marketers to higher standards than every before. Those of us that can deliver will win their loyalty. But those of us that still give them the same old crap will face with a flat out rebellion.

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Brennan White said in June 11th, 2008 at 9:44 pm

Paul,

Thanks for the kind words.

Your point about TV is probably the more accurate one. I debated going into the possibilities of TV “finding a way”, but I figured that I would make one clean point. I probably could have stated it better, but I was going for “TV as it is now done is dead” or something similar.

Here’s another philosophical question based on your comment: Is the marketing on Hulu.com TV or online marketing?

My personal view is that the television and the PC will very shortly be almost the same machine. Targeted television ads will come once the information from social media sites and other places online is readily available to the broadcasters.

I definitely think the smart TV execs will find a way to continue being relevant… once they ditch the “how do we interrupt people better” mindset.

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Brennan White said in June 11th, 2008 at 9:51 pm

Dave,

Great point.

When speaking to my parents about why they don’t TiVO through their commercials, it seems as if a lifetime of “putting up” with them has desensitized them to irrelevant marketing.

Maybe the younger generation isn’t jaded and sees the 100% on-demand nature of online as the way TV should be rather than “accepting” the current TV ad model as “how it is”.

The point you make about Gen Y wearing brands as badges is dead on. Gen-Y is the Abercrombie generation and has grown up caring A LOT about what brands they wear and use. I think the recent success of companies like Starbucks and Apple are examples of not only mastering their niche, but REALLY building a brand, courting and eventually winning over the generation that cares the most about these sorts of things. Very good point.

Thanks for the commentary guys. Great points so thus far.

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Erica DeWolf said in June 12th, 2008 at 3:32 am

First off, let me thank you for sharing this article with me, as well as your insightful post. As I read the article and your post I began getting frustrated thinking about all the companies that are completely ignoring this new generation and what they must do to survive.

Websites create something that look “cool” but isn’t usable and expect it to be okay in today’s online world. If I can’t navigate through your site, I guarantee you I’m going to go somewhere else.

I would like to find a way to reach these individuals somehow, as I fear that only the individuals who beleive in this type of thing are reading this type of stuff, while those who are trying to stay the same because “that’s the way its always been,” are the ones who should really be reading this.

I’ve tried explaining politely, with examples and real life situations, but I can’t get through. Any suggestions?

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Josh Darville said in June 12th, 2008 at 7:30 am

LOL! AWESOME!

I love the comment, things must change. Obviously.

The Internet is King, TV with an Xbox, PS3 and the internet makes an interact gaming experience shared with Friends. That’s what kids, (even old kids) are doing. TV quality sucks, it’s so much a brain-littering(would say wash but nothing is clean) Kids, Adults, would like to see content that is uplifting, hopeful, honest, heartfelt, non-offensive, clean, not over the line, not pushing the envelope with language, sex and violence, things the whole family can watch together, has characters they can look up to…

Now with Video delivery systems over the internet in HD quality TV, and most TV’s (Flat Screens) being able to hook up to a computer in seconds with a VDI cable. New TV channels, and networks can spring up to fill in the void.

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www.JoshDarville.com

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Brennan White said in June 12th, 2008 at 10:51 am

Erica,

Thanks for your continued commenting on PandemicBlog. Great points as always.

That said, you’re absolutely right. We have an adverse selection issue here. The marketing directors that are reading these kinds of things are the ones that are most likely to already be open to and considering new strategies. The more “traditional” (used euphemistically) marketing directors probably have enough distrust of blogs in general, let alone entirely new strategies.

That said, I can’t claim I would act differently. If I had made an entire career using one strategy, it might be hard to convince me that suddenly that strategy is less valid.

Great comment as per your usual. Thanks.

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Brennan White said in June 12th, 2008 at 10:57 am

Josh,

Thanks for visiting and thanks for you post.

I agree with your point that the new opportunities will allow the market to be filled in with accessible, online, HD-quality content. That is my own vision. There is very little reason to believe that television channels and online channels will remain separate for long.

Great philosophy behind your sites. I’d love to hear more about what you’re doing to promote a business like that. It seems like you’d need a groundswell behind you to get the attention needed to wield the kind of power your talking about. Is this accurate?

Thanks for commenting.

Cheers.

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Max Gladwell said in June 12th, 2008 at 8:55 pm

Sorry, but I think the term “Viral Marketing” is pure hyperbole. There is social media marketing, and if you’re lucky a video or post can spread virally. Viral is an outcome, not a strategy. Claiming that you’re a “viral marketing company” is misleading.

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Brennan White said in June 13th, 2008 at 1:43 pm

Max,

‘Viral,’ to me, is a means of delivery rather than a result.

Say you make a commercial. Rather than paying $50-$500k to have it shown on television (and have it last a limited and finite length of time), you might choose to try much more affordable ‘viral’ marketing and see how it does online first. The viral distribution is what gives the marketing the name in my mind, not the result.

Also to note: Not all biological viruses are pandemics… or even epidemics for that matter. Nonetheless, they’re still spreading by purely viral means. For me to equate the word ‘viral’ with some sort of extremely successful result wouldn’t make the most sense given that fact.

That is my own view of the term anyway. The company isn’t hugely in favor of the term in general, but that is what this kind of marketing has been called for a while and the reasoning behind it makes enough sense.

Thanks for the comment and your thoughts. I appreciate the frank discussion.

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Max Gladwell said in June 13th, 2008 at 1:58 pm

Good points. It’s really a semantic debate. Maybe I just have a bit of viral fatigue. Everyone wants to “go viral” and by that they mean a global pandemic. It sets unrealistic expectations b/c no one knows why a piece of media gets there. The Obama Girls of the world are rare. But good, sound, social media tactics have excellent ROI w/o becoming sensations.

Excellent blog, btw. I’ll visit often. Glad to hear you’re an Ayn Rand fan.

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